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Post by river on May 10, 2021 22:07:51 GMT
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Post by Ventura on May 10, 2021 23:14:10 GMT
Oh wow - Sorry if I sound like a bad person, but all I could think about is how Nicole Kidman will not be able to potentially add not ONE, but TWO Golden Globe nominations in 2022 (for "Being The Ricardos" & " Nine Perfect Stranger"), bringing her legendary Globe tally to 18 nominations !!! Just because the show doesn't air doesn't mean they won't be awarding the prizes. It has happened before. When the Globes did not air a few years ago due to the protest from the WGA, nominations and awards were only announced at the press conference. I was thinking the same thing as To Die For jajajajaj that it was a bad year for them not to happen because Nicole has good projects (also, lots of comedies and musicals this year that the Oscars are gonna pay dust too). I didn't follow the race back in 2007 but I have seen bits of it because it was Cotillard's Oscar year and there's a documentary where you can see her journey to the Oscar, and they show the televised press conference where they announced the Globes, the Oscar noms, etc (it's really cool and it's on YT if anyone wants to check it out). I think for some conflict of interest, the NBC didn't host the press conference, and it was E! and TV Guide Network who did it, while NBC did like an hour long special announcing the winners later on. My question is, will any other network want to pick them up? They'll be toxic until 2023 and I'm not sure they'll want to receive the backlash for the one year every studio will pretend they don't exist. I still hope they happen in some capacity, though, because Nicole could score a bunch of nominations, but such a shame that she could win something and not be there to accept it, or even acknowledge it if the backlash is too big. It could be a banner year "gone to waste" (showing up and winning something, or people being aware that you got a bunch of noms brings a lot of awareness, whereas now hollywood will try to ignore them) just because people need to scapegoat someone (like honestly, the Globes had a lot of issues with racism and bribes, but all the studios denouncing them now went along with them, and stars that won and accepted their awards two seconds ago are now acting like they don't know them, they're a bunch of hypocrites).
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Post by HaurvatatL on May 10, 2021 23:37:18 GMT
I'm so fed up about all these stuff... this cancel culture is very poison and commie, I'm worried about it for people in the free world. this is not good, until one day you can't tell the lines between boycott and freedom of speech. things like 230 act, big tech, and this side of main stream media are very dangerous. remember what Facebook just did to OZ people?
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Post by Mr Dedlock on May 11, 2021 0:24:50 GMT
I'm sure they will work things out, the president was just being stubborn by digging in, they will have to do damage control like NBC/CBS/WB did recently hire an independent external panel (lawyers) to see how they can improve things.
its a shame the Golden Globes were always so fun.
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Post by curdey on May 11, 2021 0:59:32 GMT
This is awful news, especially considering how generous they’ve been with Nicole in the past!
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Post by Ventura on May 11, 2021 3:31:13 GMT
A member says they'll still happen. I don't know in which capacity, maybe a press conference like 2007. After all, it's easier to sell one of those to a minor cable network than an entire show.
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Post by zazzsquad on May 11, 2021 5:40:45 GMT
Ok let's remember that the Globes once nominated The Tourist in 'best comedy'. And that they nominated James C. for The Prom.' For me, they are not that relevant as they choices are often debatable. Like a popularity contest. That being said, America's cancel culture is scary af and the show did not deserve this.
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Post by bada on May 11, 2021 6:46:15 GMT
Tom Cruise is hilarious.
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Post by zazzsquad on May 11, 2021 7:26:04 GMT
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Nicole's "Come and get it, Woody" moment from the GGs? :DD youtu.be/j6F4Mk3_VIc
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Post by triflo on May 11, 2021 7:44:51 GMT
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Nicole's "Come and get it, Woody" moment from the GGs? :DD youtu.be/j6F4Mk3_VIc And THAT Versace dress! Goddess.
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Post by misstoker on May 11, 2021 13:24:17 GMT
This is so awful...I would never expect from Johansonn. And I don't get the reason to say something like that now. She could just name the hfpa members who harassed her btw...and this happened before or after she was double nominated last year and she went there with her princess dress eating caviar and champagne? I will never believe this is a racist association (did they do a sort of audition when they select the member? Lol 'are you racist?' 'oh, yeah' 'great, you are in') Very disprectuful. And I find crazy that someone can make these kind of accusations and destroying an association the next day just with a statement. Are we really living in a world where trials and the freedom to defending themself from accusations does not count anymore? Unbelievable. Let's be clear, HFPA is not the clearest association in Hollywood, we all know they are corrupt as hell (as Oscar is), and their voting system leaves something to be desired, but I'm really so mad we live in a world where just an accusation can ruin a career and people life the next day, or build down a so important organization, without waiting if the accusations are right or not. I don't know what's happening in USA these years. If Joansonn accused them to be 'no much transparent', well, is legit. But how can an entire association, composed by Indians, European, Latin, Asiatic, be racist, statisticly is very unlikely...
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Post by zazzsquad on May 11, 2021 13:56:29 GMT
This is so awful...I would never expect from Johansonn. And I don't get the reason to say something like that now. She could just name the hamfra members who harassed her btw...and this happened before or after she was double nominated last year and she went there with her princess dress eating caviar and champagne? I will never believe this is a racist association (did they do a sort of audition when they select the member? Lol 'are you racist?' 'oh, yeah' 'great, you are in') Very disprectuful. And I find crazy that someone can make these kind of accusations and destroying an association the next day just with a statement. Are we really living in a world where trials and the freedom to defending themself from accusations does not count anymore? Unbelievable. Let's be clear, hamfra is not the cleanest association in Hollywood, we all know they are corrupt as hell (as Oscar is), and their voting system leaves something to be desired, but I'm really so mad we live in a world where just an accusation can ruin a career and people life the next day, or build down a so important organization, without waiting if the accusations are right or not. I don't know what's happening in USA these years. If Joansonn accused them to be 'no much transparent', well, is legit. But how can an entire association, composed by Indians, European, Latin, Asiatic, be racist, statisticly is very unlikely... That's what social media has done to America. People's career'd destroyed over tweets, IG and press releases. Roseanne Barr, Armie Hammer, the Golden Globes... The americans are cool with guns in school but have issue with every fucking little thing 🤮
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Post by triflo on May 11, 2021 15:11:38 GMT
Yeah. Even when they are starting an talk/movement/taking actions about any injustice or important subject matter:) It can very quickly be blown out of proportion and simply being ridiculed. For example on awardswatch it's simply impossible to criticize performance from black actor without being called a "racist".
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Post by WizLemon on May 11, 2021 15:51:56 GMT
I don't think it's a very black and white matter. Based on my reading, I do feel there's a systemic issue with HFPA that has simmered and allowed to perpetuate for years - not only by HFPA itself but also film stars and big Hollywood studios. It's been a fascinating symbiotic relationship. The HFPA gets perks and merch and air travel and all expenses paid trips to premieres. The Weinsteins and Scott Rudins and Streeps and Hanks get publicity, nominations, award buzz and so on.
I have to highlight a few facts though. Of all the 90-something reporters - not a single one was black? Even from countries like South Africa or Kenya let alone UK or Canada?
They actively declined screenings of black-predominant shows over the course of years. The HFPA denied requests for press conferences for three major projects with Black-led casts in recent years: Bridgerton, Girls Trip, and Queen & Slim. How is that not a red flag?
Berk, a previous office holder was accused of fraud while he was leading the HFPA, and also, of grabbing Brendan Fraser’s butt at a party. I mean. That's one example that came forward.
For a small body that yields SO much power in Hollywood, they should absolutely be held accountable, in my humble opinion. Just like the studio heads who had been bribing them to buy awards. If they are going to make meaningful change in their structure, they need to be more transparent.
I share everyone's concerns about cancel culture. But this is not an overnight development. Even in 1996, about 25 members and one former president told Sharon Waxman in the Washington Post, about the corruption at HFPA. They had it coming and they've been evading the consequences since forever.
Racism against black people is very deeply ingrained in all societies. Being South Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Latino does not preclude you from being racist. I'm from South Asia and can vouch, how real this issue is.
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Post by misstoker on May 11, 2021 16:51:34 GMT
I don't think it's a very black and white matter. Based on my reading, I do feel there's a systemic issue with HFPA that has simmered and allowed to perpetuate for years - not only by HFPA itself but also film stars and big Hollywood studios. It's been a fascinating symbiotic relationship. The HFPA gets perks and merch and air travel and all expenses paid trips to premieres. The Weinsteins and Scott Rudins and Streeps and Hanks get publicity, nominations, award buzz and so on. I have to highlight a few facts though. Of all the 90-something reporters - not a single one was black? Even from countries like South Africa or Kenya let alone UK or Canada? They actively declined screenings of black-predominant shows over the course of years. The HFPA denied requests for press conferences for three major projects with Black-led casts in recent years: Bridgerton, Girls Trip, and Queen & Slim. How is that not a red flag? Berk, a previous office holder was accused of fraud while he was leading the HFPA, and also, of grabbing Brendan Fraser’s butt at a party. I mean. That's one example that came forward. For a small body that yields SO much power in Hollywood, they should absolutely be held accountable, in my humble opinion. Just like the studio heads who had been bribing them to buy awards. If they are going to make meaningful change in their structure, they need to be more transparent. I share everyone's concerns about cancel culture. But this is not an overnight development. Even in 1996, about 25 members and one former president told Sharon Waxman in the Washington Post, about the corruption at HFPA. They had it coming and they've been evading the consequences since forever. Racism against black people is very deeply ingrained in all societies. Being South Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Latino does not preclude you from being racist. I'm from South Asia and can vouch, how real this issue is. Wizlemon, you gave more explanation than Johansonn or Cruise with your comment, that I find very interesting. I agree is strange there is no black member on the jury, but they are all not white Caucasian people, and I find, statistically impossible, they are all racist... All of them? GG jury is an elite who have a lot of privilege and they are the easiest award to buy, we all know Emily in Paris nominations this year were all bought from Netflix but fortunately they 'sell' only the nomination to studios. Academy do the same anyway. There are a lot of problem and improprieties by them, but we can all agree they nominated so many performances that academy didn't touch, and I doubt Boy Erased nominations were bought by fox, they help so many amazing little performance to be remembered, Birth on top of them. I don't know, I see only hypocrisy, I don't know what's happening in Hollywood. They all go there, enjoying the event, and then someone who wake up and say 'I just noticed GG are racist, and i had sexual appreciations by some of them, but I will not say the names... And then Tom Cruise, upset by this 'unexpected' news, return back his golden globes... Yes sure...i don't buy this. Sorry guys, but I'm starting hating everybody in Hollywood...to much hypocrisy...
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