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Post by bada on Apr 19, 2018 15:12:04 GMT
I just read the script. I can't share it, but it's gonna be a completely different role for her. This is the first character in a long time that I can't even imagine how she's gonna play it. Not that she's been predictable, but having seen 65 movies or TV shows of hers, you can pretty much guess how she's gonna play it. Detective Bell is not that kind of role. It's a role written for someone like Joaquin Phoenix. Bleak. I hope she delivers. Is the script strong? As in good twists and turns, good dialogue etc? I’m still recovering from the nonsense of Strangerland with its unrealised narrative complete with an ‘open ending’ aka ‘lost the plot to my own movie’ I didn't totally buy the last act. We'll see how it translates to the screen. To be honest, I think this is gonna be a Nicole Kidman movie than a Karyn Kusama movie, if that makes sense. It's not very rich or busy plot-wise (there's a big, long action sequence with Detective Bell though), but the character is complicated. It's a character study. FYI the gang leader is played by Toby Kebbell. It's not a big role. In fact, every role other than Detective Bell is pretty limited. It's a one woman show. It's gonna be an amazing showcase for Nicole, if she delivers.
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Post by nic on Apr 19, 2018 19:51:43 GMT
Is the script strong? As in good twists and turns, good dialogue etc? I’m still recovering from the nonsense of Strangerland with its unrealised narrative complete with an ‘open ending’ aka ‘lost the plot to my own movie’ I didn't totally buy the last act. We'll see how it translates to the screen. To be honest, I think this is gonna be a Nicole Kidman movie than a Karyn Kusama movie, if that makes sense. It's not very rich or busy plot-wise (there's a big, long action sequence with Detective Bell though), but the character is complicated. It's a character study. FYI the gang leader is played by Toby Kebbell. It's not a big role. In fact, every role other than Detective Bell is pretty limited. It's a one woman show. It's gonna be an amazing showcase for Nicole, if she delivers. Not surprised the script has flaws; Jennifer’s Body was utter rubbish. That’s why I still don’t expect much,
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Post by perro del hortelano on Apr 19, 2018 21:19:24 GMT
I didn't totally buy the last act. We'll see how it translates to the screen. To be honest, I think this is gonna be a Nicole Kidman movie than a Karyn Kusama movie, if that makes sense. It's not very rich or busy plot-wise (there's a big, long action sequence with Detective Bell though), but the character is complicated. It's a character study. FYI the gang leader is played by Toby Kebbell. It's not a big role. In fact, every role other than Detective Bell is pretty limited. It's a one woman show. It's gonna be an amazing showcase for Nicole, if she delivers. Not surprised the script has flaws; Jennifer’s Body was utter rubbish. That’s why I still don’t expect much, As far as I am concerned, Diablo Cody is not involved in this project.
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Post by bada on Apr 20, 2018 4:58:01 GMT
I didn't totally buy the last act. We'll see how it translates to the screen. To be honest, I think this is gonna be a Nicole Kidman movie than a Karyn Kusama movie, if that makes sense. It's not very rich or busy plot-wise (there's a big, long action sequence with Detective Bell though), but the character is complicated. It's a character study. FYI the gang leader is played by Toby Kebbell. It's not a big role. In fact, every role other than Detective Bell is pretty limited. It's a one woman show. It's gonna be an amazing showcase for Nicole, if she delivers. Not surprised the script has flaws; Jennifer’s Body was utter rubbish. That’s why I still don’t expect much, Yeah, you've expressed your thoughts on this project very clearly. I don't think the script has "flaws" to be exact. It's just that it was hard to grasp how the last act is gonna be portrayed from the text because there are very techincal, complicated scenes (lots of cuts, different POVs, lots of action & revelation, etc). I'd say I'm going to reserve my judgement on that until I see the movie. I have hope.
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Post by paperboy88 on Apr 20, 2018 6:03:37 GMT
" but it's gonna be a completely different role for her. This is the first character in a long time that I can't even imagine how she's gonna play it. Not that she's been predictable, but having seen 65 movies or TV shows of hers, you can pretty much guess how she's gonna play it. Detective Bell is not that kind of role. It's a role written for someone like Joaquin Phoenix. Bleak. I hope she delivers."
Waw!! that's exciting! i can't wait for the trailer/Official reactions. Hopefully it's gets a film festival premier soon.
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Post by nic on Apr 20, 2018 9:07:58 GMT
Not surprised the script has flaws; Jennifer’s Body was utter rubbish. That’s why I still don’t expect much, Yeah, you've expressed your thoughts on this project very clearly. I don't think the script has "flaws" to be exact. It's just that it was hard to grasp how the last act is gonna be portrayed from the text because there are very techincal, complicated scenes (lots of cuts, different POVs, lots of action & revelation, etc). I'd say I'm going to reserve my judgement on that until I see the movie. I have hope. Well sorry if I’m a little negative, but when a film wastes 2 h of my life, which was the case with JB, I don’t forget it easilyz I enjoyed The Gift so I’m all up for Boy Erased.
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Post by Our Nic on Apr 20, 2018 15:38:02 GMT
Not surprised the script has flaws; Jennifer’s Body was utter rubbish. That’s why I still don’t expect much, Yeah, you've expressed your thoughts on this project very clearly. I don't think the script has "flaws" to be exact. It's just that it was hard to grasp how the last act is gonna be portrayed from the text because there are very techincal, complicated scenes (lots of cuts, different POVs, lots of action & revelation, etc). I'd say I'm going to reserve my judgement on that until I see the movie. I have hope. I understand if you can't/don't want to say BUT how did you get the script? Also like, I'm just dying to know: can you be a little more specific about the role? No worries if you don't want to say any more but like, what about the role is so different?
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Post by bada on Apr 20, 2018 17:23:19 GMT
Yeah, you've expressed your thoughts on this project very clearly. I don't think the script has "flaws" to be exact. It's just that it was hard to grasp how the last act is gonna be portrayed from the text because there are very techincal, complicated scenes (lots of cuts, different POVs, lots of action & revelation, etc). I'd say I'm going to reserve my judgement on that until I see the movie. I have hope. I understand if you can't/don't want to say BUT how did you get the script? Also like, I'm just dying to know: can you be a little more specific about the role? No worries if you don't want to say any more but like, what about the role is so different? I got it from a friend of mine, but he asked me not to share it. About the role ( If you want to see the movie without any plot detail, don't read the below.) Detective Bell had a traumatic experience in the past, and she tries to make it right 17 years later by "solving" the case Silas (Toby Kebbell) is involved with. Silas was/is the leader of the gang. Bell and Chris (Sebastian Stan) were undercover cops. Bell and Chris pretend to be lovers to sneak into the gang, but they do fall in love eventually. Tatiana Maslany plays Petra, one of the gang members. Bell is basically a mess. She lives alone and prefers to work alone (she does have a partner, but she ditches him to investigate the Silas case alone.) She has a strained relationship with her teenage daughter. Her daughter is with a much older man (just like in Top of the Lake: China Girl!) and it is a nightmare for Bell. Bell tries to make her daughter stop seeing him, even if it means she has to punch him in the face. In fact, violence is always an option for her. Sometimes she gets a punch (or something worse) and sometimes she throws a punch (or something worse.) She's a determined woman. She's willing to do bad things to get what she wants. She goes through a lot of brutal things in the movie, physically and emotionally, but she always fights back. But it's the internal turmoil that really pains Bell. It's the main arc of the movie. It seems like she doesn't allow herself to be happy even for a moment, because she thinks she doesn't deserve it. I'm not gonna spoil anything here, but there're a few emotional scenes.
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Post by perro del hortelano on Apr 20, 2018 18:41:56 GMT
I for once I am going to see the movie with any plot detail. I precisely enjoyed so much TKOASD because the source was original so I could not read the book where it was adapted from.
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Post by Our Nic on Apr 20, 2018 19:08:28 GMT
I’m dead.
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Post by silviabroome on Apr 20, 2018 21:57:05 GMT
Thank you Bada! I am dead too. This is definitely something different from the previous roles of Kidman!
SPOILER: I could never ever ever imagine that I would see Kidman punching other people in a movie... I am very curious how she will pull off that role!
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Post by brittany on Apr 20, 2018 22:08:17 GMT
I was able to read the script earlier this week as well. It was shared by a friend of mine who had access to it. I really enjoyed it and think it was quite smart. Very action packed, violent, dark, mysterious. And it's completely different from anything Nicole has done before. If I didn't know the extent of her talent from following her work for years like I have, I may not have believed she could pull it off. It's going to be a huge transformation and I'm sure people will be stunned. Erin Bell is such a raw, physical, fucked up role. All of the action stuff, the scenes with the daughter, the language her character uses... I am so beyond excited. I hope it all comes together, because there is a lot of potential with the cast and script. I am rooting so hard for Kusama in pulling it all together.
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Post by triflo on Apr 20, 2018 22:44:05 GMT
I was able to read the script earlier this week as well. It was shared by a friend of mine who had access to it. I really enjoyed it and think it was quite smart. Very action packed, violent, dark, mysterious. And it's completely different from anything Nicole has done before. If I didn't know the extent of her talent from following her work for years like I have, I may not have believed she could pull it off. It's going to be a huge transformation and I'm sure people will be stunned. Erin Bell is such a raw, physical, fucked up role. All of the action stuff, the scenes with the daughter, the language her character uses... I am so beyond excited. I hope it all comes together, because there is a lot of potential with the cast and script. I am rooting so hard for Kusama in pulling it all together. Sounds very, very risky to me. I just hope she won't be miscast and Kusama will deliver. Very hit or miss project - nothing in between:)
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Post by WizLemon on Apr 20, 2018 22:44:28 GMT
I was able to read the script earlier this week as well. It was shared by a friend of mine who had access to it. I really enjoyed it and think it was quite smart. Very action packed, violent, dark, mysterious. And it's completely different from anything Nicole has done before. If I didn't know the extent of her talent from following her work for years like I have, I may not have believed she could pull it off. It's going to be a huge transformation and I'm sure people will be stunned. Erin Bell is such a raw, physical, fucked up role. All of the action stuff, the scenes with the daughter, the language her character uses... I am so beyond excited. I hope it all comes together, because there is a lot of potential with the cast and script. I am rooting so hard for Kusama in pulling it all together. I'm so very intrigued and really thrilled to know the potential for this movie. I didn't realize the narrative falls so heavily on Kidman's shoulders, though! Let's see how this one unfolds.
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Post by brittany on Apr 20, 2018 23:17:58 GMT
I was able to read the script earlier this week as well. It was shared by a friend of mine who had access to it. I really enjoyed it and think it was quite smart. Very action packed, violent, dark, mysterious. And it's completely different from anything Nicole has done before. If I didn't know the extent of her talent from following her work for years like I have, I may not have believed she could pull it off. It's going to be a huge transformation and I'm sure people will be stunned. Erin Bell is such a raw, physical, fucked up role. All of the action stuff, the scenes with the daughter, the language her character uses... I am so beyond excited. I hope it all comes together, because there is a lot of potential with the cast and script. I am rooting so hard for Kusama in pulling it all together. Sounds very, very risky to me. I just hope she won't be miscast and Kusama will deliver. Very hit or miss project - nothing in between:) It is risky, but Nicole is a risk taker. It's only fitting. And it's incredible to me that she would go for something like this. I love when she breaks the mold and does something unexpected. And we have talked on here about her finding a great leading role again, and this is an incredibly demanding and dynamic one.
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