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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 17:47:35 GMT
Our Nic please calm down, you don't know for sure that the films whole cast is white. Please don't turn this thread into something it isn't about. There are more civilized ways in addressing this conversation than attacking other posters. You're right (I was mostly being funny) but I will not be told "don't do that" for pointing out that the cast of this film so far is all white. Don't do that? That's a response to pointing out that this film is engaging in systemic racism? As a forum administrator, I respectfully think that you need to address that with Julia as well. I apologize Julia.
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 17:50:10 GMT
Also I will say this: I have noticed on this forum that when things like race are brought up the response is something like "don't make this thread something it isn't about". I personally think not talking about things like racism, sexism, any kind of marginalization and abuse is irresponsible. If you don't walk to talk about it, don't engage with me.
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Post by situ on Nov 30, 2017 18:01:18 GMT
Just my humile reponse, cause I need to.
Im always open to talk about racism, sexism and andy kind of marginalization, always, it's part of what i belive. But I have to say, reading this posts, I think to bring up racism in this, just to throw the theme, it's not adecuate, cause we even dont know the full cast and more importantly, the script! People have to wait a and see what they are talking about before thowing up this seriuous themes. If not, it always can be misunderstood, cause we practically know nothing about this project.
Hope you can understand what I mean.
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 18:13:56 GMT
I do understand what you mean. And I wasn't trying to make the thread about race. My response was literally "Ugh these r all white ppl!!" I didn't even use full words!!
To respond to that with "don't do that" was disrespectful and I'm not backing down on that sorry. paintnails.emoji. I did overreact but I am v dramatic person and lol guys we're talking over the internet
And in my personal opinion, if the script requires that everybody be white then it shouldn't be produced (I also doubt that it is written that way). It disappoints that this film is probably only going to be produced if it has an all white cast, especially given that the director is a woman of color.
xoxo
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 18:17:13 GMT
I also really do want to add that if you think my response to casting announcements of all white people is not "adequate" then I genuinely think you're wrong. If we don't point these things out and call them out as wrong, then it's not going to change. Even on a Nicole Kidman forum.
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 18:20:52 GMT
Sorry I phrased that poorly. situ, respectfully, I disagree with this: "think to bring up racism in this, just to throw the theme, it's not adecuate,". Just to throw in the theme? It's not a theme it's a reality that pervades EVERYTHING. Race in casting is a HUGE ISSUE that is literally one of the most discussed topics right now. Discussions about representations are everywhere! My response was entirely adequate.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Nov 30, 2017 20:11:02 GMT
but Karyn Kusama has cast non white actors in her films before, but you have hijacked this thread based on an assumption you dont know what the final cast is going to look like and I repeat Karyn Kusama has worked with actors from all walks and races.
nobody shies away from the topic of abuse, racism and sexism, but come you've turned destroyer into something it is not.
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 20:24:21 GMT
I genuinely did not mean to hijack the thread, but why is discussing the racial optics of a film a bad thing? Because Nicole Kidman is in it? I don't understand. This is a universal conversation that is happening everywhere, about pretty much every film.
I haven't turned Destroyer into anything. I haven't called it racist, I haven't even said that I would boycott the movie! I also never said that the whole cast was white. I expressed (mild) disappointment at all the announced people being white and then called out somebody who I thought was wrong it wanting to repress my right to express dissatisfaction at something that is on the cultural consciousness right now.
I get that my response to Julia was too much, and I apologized, but I sort of think saying that I "turned destroyer into something it is not" is even more ridiculous than me telling Julia never to tell me what to do again lol (Julia I truly am sorry my response was so OTT). But I turned destroyer into something it is not!? You say I'm making assumptions, but what assumption are you making? What did I turn Destroyer into?
I'm happy to drop this but lol
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Nov 30, 2017 20:32:45 GMT
then tell me what is your point ?
you're bringing this up here in the Destroyer thread? is nIcole kidman a racist? or Karyn Kusama a racist? are the producers racists?
The cast so far is too white for your liking? is that your point?
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 20:37:07 GMT
I never called anybody a racist!
Yes my point was that it was upsetting that the entire cast so far is white!
Why does that bother you?
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Post by perro del hortelano on Nov 30, 2017 21:10:40 GMT
Back to the topic, Kidman says she starts shooting it next week.
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 21:21:14 GMT
perro del hortelano I do not like the racial optics of that clip, please remove it.
jk
I actually can't wait for this movie, seems like a very juicy role for Nicole. I do like "Destroyer" better than "The Destroyer" tho.
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Post by paperboy88 on Nov 30, 2017 22:26:48 GMT
what's going on!?! too many off the topic posts, i'm lost here. Anyway, i'm not really excited about this project, i hope i'm wrong. however i'm really excited to see Nicole in a leading role. Can't wait to see how she looks on set. i hope she doesn't use a wig like the one she used in "The secret in their eyes" that was ridiculous.
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Post by Our Nic on Nov 30, 2017 22:39:31 GMT
I hate to keep harping on this (ok maybe I don’t ;-) ) but discussing the racial optics in the casting of Destroyer in the Destroyer thread (and yes, the larger implications of said casting) is on topic.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 4, 2017 19:59:44 GMT
cast has gotten bigger! i'm not familiar with any of them but it seems like they're good to start filming. linkedit toby huss was the creepy cult leader in the invitation.
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