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Post by deron on Dec 4, 2017 20:27:49 GMT
I stayed out of the whole "white cast" thing, because I figured there was a lot more casting to do, and the diversity might pick up.
But damn....you gotta admit this cast is really damned white. Maybe the cult in the story is the Ku Klux Klan or something.lol!
Sort of surprised since Kusama is half Asian. Thought she'd be more conscious of diversity in her casting. Nothing about this story suggests the casting needs to be so monolithic. Even on a purely economic level, it makes sense to cast actors from other demographics to broaden your potential audience.
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Post by Julia on Dec 4, 2017 20:42:15 GMT
I honestly do not know why accusations of racism get thrown around for no reason when it comes to something like casting, it's not as if there's actual racial discrimination going on, and if there is it should be rightfully called out. This is still in production. Like you said, Kusama is half Asian, the insinuation that she's perpetrating oppression by not casting minorities is insane. Not everyone is overly concerned with diversity as much as they seem to be expected to be.
The way I see it, if a role is intended to be played by a person of color and is given to a white person instead, that's pretty racist and not okay. In this case I don't see any evidence of racism. However I understand why why discussions about race get brought up when a cast is all white.
Sometimes, even when directors are conscious of including diversity as a component of their projects, they get accused of tokenism. Honestly, criticism ensues either way.
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Post by deron on Dec 4, 2017 20:57:35 GMT
Well Destroyer is supposed to be set in contemporary LA, where white people are actually a minority. 47% of people in Los Angeles identify themselves as Latino.
If Kusma is making a contemporary crime thriller in LA, it might be useful to reflect the make-up of the city. Training Day is one of the more accurate LA Crime films, because it cast quite a few Latinos, who are the majority.
The casting for Destroyer is actually a lot more problematic because of the demographics of the city it's set in.
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Post by Julia on Dec 4, 2017 21:01:46 GMT
Well Destroyer is supposed to be set in contemporary LA, where white people are actually a minority. 47% of people in Los Angeles identify themselves as Latino. If Kusma is making a contemporary crime thriller in LA, it might be useful to reflect the make-up of the city. Training Day is one of the more accurate LA Crime films, because it cast quite a few Latinos, who are the majority. The casting for Destroyer is actually a lot more problematic because of the demographics of the city it's set in. My apologies Deron, I had edited that after reading it over and remembering where it was set. You're right, in this instance it would be very unusual to not cast any Latinx actors in a project like this one. Unless there's some racial component or commentary to the film that ends up being worthwhile, this is indeed something that should be criticized. However given the identity of the director herself I would be hesitant to call it explicitly racist.
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Post by nic on Dec 5, 2017 3:17:49 GMT
Well Destroyer is supposed to be set in contemporary LA, where white people are actually a minority. 47% of people in Los Angeles identify themselves as Latino. If Kusma is making a contemporary crime thriller in LA, it might be useful to reflect the make-up of the city. Training Day is one of the more accurate LA Crime films, because it cast quite a few Latinos, who are the majority. The casting for Destroyer is actually a lot more problematic because of the demographics of the city it's set in. My apologies Deron, I had edited that after reading it over and remembering where it was set. You're right, in this instance it would be very unusual to not cast any Latinx actors in a project like this one. Unless there's some racial component or commentary to the film that ends up being worthwhile, this is indeed something that should be criticized. However given the identity of the director herself I would be hesitant to call it explicitly racist. Of course she can’t even get the casting right. It’s the director of Jennifer’s Body and Aeon Flux, for Christ sake. Why anyone would have anything more than zero pc expectations for this project is beyond me.
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Post by bada on Dec 5, 2017 5:07:14 GMT
Come on. Her filmography is not that bad. And the cast of The Invitation was actually diverse, so I'm willing to give her a benefit of doubt. Maybe there's a reason.
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Post by raneto on Dec 5, 2017 5:16:05 GMT
Toby Huss and Scoot McNairy, both of them, made Halt and Catch Fire, a wonderful tv series, I loved it, Kusama directed a few episodes of this, including one of the bests, the last episode from the last season.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 5, 2017 5:32:18 GMT
I'm not getting dragged into another white cast black cast argument.
Karyn Kusama is not a racist and she'll cast whoever she thinks fit to realize her story. As mentioned it's not out of the ordinary to have completely white cults. She could be making an analogy to current destructive cults thriving in society today.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 5, 2017 5:50:22 GMT
Principal photography has begun link
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 5, 2017 7:44:21 GMT
Oh and BTW, variety just confirmed that Shamier Anderson has also joined the film. He probably was still in negotiations when deadline confirmed their other cast members. I'm a fan of his work in Wynona Earp, cast is filled with TV stars, with Kidman being the only movie star! link
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Post by paperboy88 on Dec 5, 2017 11:13:29 GMT
"I'm a fan of his work in Wynona Earp, cast is filled with TV stars, with Kidman being the only movie star!"
I hope this doesn't end up straight to tv 🙈 I still have no expectations whatsoever, I really hope I end up wrong. After this year's projects and last year success and Cannes, I just expected a higher level collaboration, with a big name director.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 5, 2017 13:22:01 GMT
"I'm a fan of his work in Wynona Earp, cast is filled with TV stars, with Kidman being the only movie star!" I hope this doesn't end up straight to tv 🙈 I still have no expectations whatsoever, I really hope I end up wrong. After this year's projects and last year success and Cannes, I just expected a higher level collaboration, with a big name director. There is always that risk but she made a vow to work with more women. And she's sticking to it! Hopefully the prestigious films will come next year.
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Post by Our Nic on Dec 5, 2017 20:52:06 GMT
Oh and BTW, variety just confirmed that Shamier Anderson has also joined the film. He probably was still in negotiations when deadline confirmed their other cast members. I'm a fan of his work in Wynona Earp, cast is filled with TV stars, with Kidman being the only movie star! link I'm glad! It is a step!
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Post by raneto on Dec 6, 2017 18:08:40 GMT
Kidman in the set of Destroyer; look at the pic in the mirror, is she brunette in this?
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 6, 2017 18:20:12 GMT
Yup, that pic looks like Maggie gyllenhall or rashida jones.
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