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Post by paperboy88 on Mar 16, 2018 1:53:45 GMT
"the new president of jury still won't let it happen."
Why would you think so? I thought Blanchett & Kidman are friends, I don't think she would role her out because she never won Cannes acting category, i personally don't think Cate would be that kind of a person. Maybe cause i really like her.
I actually would love Nicole to go & share some red carpet shots with her! & hopefully have them talk about each other in interviews.
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Post by Manwithoutfriends on Mar 16, 2018 10:12:36 GMT
"the new president of jury still won't let it happen." Why would you think so? I thought Blanchett & Kidman are friends, I don't think she would role her out because she never won Cannes acting category, i personally don't think Cate would be that kind of a person. Maybe cause i really like her. I actually would love Nicole to go & share some red carpet shots with her! & hopefully have them talk about each other in interviews. Yeah I also don't see Cate Blanchett standing in Nicole's way.
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Post by Poison_Regal on Mar 16, 2018 10:55:30 GMT
If the film is ready and brilliant why not! Oh I would love her to win best actress at Cannes, that would be marvelous. If the performance is as intestine/complicated as she said with hopefully a decent outcome she should have a solid chance, I loved the recognition she received last year from Cannes, but I still want her to win the acting category,that would simply have her as an early runner at the oscars. she will have months and months to campaign "which she loves doing" I'm afraid even her acting is solid and undeniable. the new president of jury still won't let it happen. That's quite a statement to make.
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Post by deron on Mar 16, 2018 11:40:49 GMT
"the new president of jury still won't let it happen." Why would you think so? I thought Blanchett & Kidman are friends, I don't think she would role her out because she never won Cannes acting category, i personally don't think Cate would be that kind of a person. Maybe cause i really like her. I actually would love Nicole to go & share some red carpet shots with her! & hopefully have them talk about each other in interviews. I think Nicole and Cate are "friends" in the same way almost all the Australian actors who make it internationally are "friends". They'll compliment each other in public, and are chummy at events and stuff. Bit of national pride involved. But I've never gotten the impresssion that Nicole and Blanchett spend much, if any personal time together, or are particularly close. Naomi Watts is a real friend with Nicole (and arguably these days, Reese Witherspoon and Laura Dern). Blanchett is an "industry friend", which is kind of fickle. You laugh it up if you happen to run into each other and might invite each other to a play you are doing, but that's it. They'd probably have to work together to develop a real friendship. Cate may have a healthy professional respect for Nicole, but she's not so close to her that she probably doesn't still view her as a major rival, for accolades and roles. Human nature being what it is, do you think Blanchett wants to lose her distinction as Australia's only 2 time Oscar winning actress to share it with Nicole, whom she's frequently pitted against anyway when it comes to talent, prestige, looks, fashion etc? Probably not. It doesn't make Blanchett a bad person either. But it's a natural instinct not to want to further the career of a direct rival.
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Post by Naominic on Mar 16, 2018 12:04:35 GMT
It's interesting, about four years ago Blanchett was clearly ahead of Nicole in terms of awards and acclaim.
But since 2015 it's been reversed and it's Nicole who's getting awards and recognition.
It all started with the Evening Standard Award for "Photograph 51".
What's impressive about Nicole's recent awards run is that she won accolades for theater and TV work, not just film work.
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Post by deron on Mar 16, 2018 12:23:33 GMT
It's interesting, about four years ago Blanchett was clearly ahead of Nicole in terms of awards and acclaim. But since 2015 it's been reversed and it's Nicole who's getting awards and recognition. It all started with the Evening Standard Award for "Photograph 51". What's impressive about Nicole's recent awards run is that she won accolades for theater and TV work, not just film work. Blanchett isn't exactly in the middle of an awards drought. She was still getting nominated almost everywhere (including Oscar) for Carol (2015 release, but crossed over into 2016 awards season). She's done a lot of stuff since that isn't a natural fit for awards (that art installation movie Manifesto. Thor: Ragnarok). Maybe Terrence Malick's Song To Song might have been considered an awards prospect once upon a time, but I think a lot of critics have started to dismiss Malick as a pretentious hack (where once everything he did was labled "genius"). But when Blanchett does something very obviously aimed at awards (like Where'd You Go, Bernedette? this year), you'd still have to say she's heavily favored for at least a lot of nominations. But yeah, I've always found it a bit strange that Nicole had had much greater acclaim on the London theatre scene (2 Olivier Award nominations, 2 Evening Standard Award wins) compared to Blanchett, whose done more London theatre, but also lives in England.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Mar 16, 2018 13:34:47 GMT
I remember there was a time when I'd hear the name Blanchett and my blood started boiling! Not anymore, one is an apple the other is an orange.
I would prefer Kidman skips Cannes this year. They won't give her best actress cause she already won the Cannes laurete last year.
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Post by guyinthevalley on Mar 16, 2018 20:28:25 GMT
Nicole is the apple, I think she is a peach!
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Post by HaurvatatL on Mar 16, 2018 22:53:18 GMT
"the new president of jury still won't let it happen." Why would you think so? I thought Blanchett & Kidman are friends, I don't think she would role her out because she never won Cannes acting category, i personally don't think Cate would be that kind of a person. Maybe cause i really like her. I actually would love Nicole to go & share some red carpet shots with her! & hopefully have them talk about each other in interviews. I think it's be cause You're very kind. and I'm a horrible person. (I am, I know) love you, and much respect. pls don't be upset, man. forgive and ignore me. I'm just not convinced that Blanchett'd really celebrate (or live with) a Nicole-victory. but hell yeah, if they go red carpet together, it'll be a fashion feast, I love the idea.
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Post by Manwithoutfriends on Mar 17, 2018 15:04:31 GMT
It's interesting, about four years ago Blanchett was clearly ahead of Nicole in terms of awards and acclaim. But since 2015 it's been reversed and it's Nicole who's getting awards and recognition. It all started with the Evening Standard Award for "Photograph 51". What's impressive about Nicole's recent awards run is that she won accolades for theater and TV work, not just film work. I think Blanchett is still firmly ahead of Nicole in terms of acclaim and prestige. I believe Nicole has the stronger legacy though and it's unlikely anything will change that.
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Post by perro del hortelano on Mar 17, 2018 15:10:34 GMT
Yeah, I also think that the vast majority would still choose Blanchett as the most talented one if they had pick one of them two.
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Post by Naominic on Mar 17, 2018 15:24:26 GMT
I think Blanchett is still firmly ahead of Nicole in terms of acclaim and prestige. Juste because she has one more Oscar doesn't mean she's ahead in terms of acclaim and prestige. Acting is not just about Oscars. When it comes to non-film awards, Nicole has won two prestigious awards that Cate has yet to win : - the Evening Standard Theater Award for Best Actress (Photograph 51) - the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Actress in a TV Miniseries/Movie (Big Little Lies) Then she won a prestigious prize at the Cannes Film Festival. Nicole is actually closer to achieve the Triple Crown of Acting than Cate is.
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Post by Poison_Regal on Mar 17, 2018 15:45:05 GMT
Naominic has a very strong good point there.
I suppose every era of music or film has the women pitted against each other 'thing'
Joan Crawford Vs Bette Davis
Meryl Streep Vs Glenn Close or Meryl Streep Vs Jessica Lange or Meryl Streep Vs someone's favorite actress who doesn't get an Oscar nomination.
Nicole Kidman Vs Cate Blanchett
Kate Bush Vs Tori Amos
Madonna Vs Lady Gaga or Madonna Vs Kylie Minogue
I mean there are so many more.
Personally for me i adore Cate Blanchett, she's incredible. She's in my top ten of contemporary actresses of all time. I would love her to work with Nicole Kidman one day. Nicole is my absolute favourite. Although Cate has had more Oscar nominations, i won't nit pick her talents or honours. Some people when their favourite doesn't win something or get nominated or the latest film isn't as successful as they might have hoped they allow themselves to become rather hateful, especially online and are quite deluded and think they are being 'honest'. I welcome constructive it's wonderful to have discussions with people who aren't complete fan boys.
Anyway just my opinion.
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Post by deron on Mar 17, 2018 16:14:22 GMT
It's interesting, about four years ago Blanchett was clearly ahead of Nicole in terms of awards and acclaim. But since 2015 it's been reversed and it's Nicole who's getting awards and recognition. It all started with the Evening Standard Award for "Photograph 51". What's impressive about Nicole's recent awards run is that she won accolades for theater and TV work, not just film work. I think Blanchett is still firmly ahead of Nicole in terms of acclaim and prestige. I think it's quite close between them actually. Blanchett has the edge in some places (more Oscar nominations and wins. Same for BAFTA). But Nicole has the edge in other places. 12 Golden Globe nominations and 4 wins for Nicole compared to 9 nominations and 3 wins for Blanchett. Nicole's Globe record for a primarily film actor is almost Streepian. Even the biggest female movie star of Nicole's generation, Julia Roberts, "only" has 8 Globe nominations. Nicole has 2 Olivier Award nominations and 2 Evening Standard Theatre Awards. Blanchett has zero Olivier Award nominations, and 1 Evening Standard Award nomination (and no wins). But Blanchett does have a Tony nomination, which Nicole hasn't recieved. Nicole has the Emmy, which Blanchett lacks. Blanchett only has one more individual SAG nomination than Nicole (Nicole is on 7, Blanchett on 8). They are pretty much in the same ballpark. I think Nicole has been closing the gap in prestige and recognition in recent years, and I think it'll only get closer. If Nicole hadn't been wrongfully denied a couple of Oscar nominations, I don't even think it'd be a question whether their prestige and acclaim was evenly balanced.
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Post by Poison_Regal on Mar 17, 2018 16:39:10 GMT
I think Blanchett is still firmly ahead of Nicole in terms of acclaim and prestige. I think it's quite close between them actually. Blanchett has the edge in some places (more Oscar nominations and wins. Same for BAFTA). But Nicole has the edge in other places. 12 Golden Globe nominations and 4 wins for Nicole compared to 9 nominations and 3 wins for Blanchett. Nicole's Globe record for a primarily film actor is almost Streepian. Even the biggest female movie star of Nicole's generation, Julia Roberts, "only" has 8 Globe nominations. Nicole has 2 Olivier Award nominations and 2 Evening Standard Theatre Awards. Blanchett has zero Olivier Award nominations, and 1 Evening Standard Award (and no wins). But Blanchett does have a Tony nomination, which Nicole hasn't recieved. Nicole has the Emmy, which Blanchett lacks. Blanchett only has one more individual SAG nomination than Nicole (Nicole is on 7, Blanchett on 8). They are pretty much in the same ballpark. I think Nicole has been closing the gap in prestige and recognition in recent years, and I think it'll only get closer. If Nicole hadn't been wrongfully denied a couple of Oscar nominations, I don't even think it'd be a question whether their prestige and acclaim was evenly balanced. Very good points.
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