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Post by WizLemon on Dec 24, 2018 11:19:10 GMT
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Post by WizLemon on Dec 24, 2018 15:47:32 GMT
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 24, 2018 16:17:00 GMT
Did Travers have to call her a movie star lol, I thought that phrase went extinct a long while ago.
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Post by WizLemon on Dec 24, 2018 20:20:33 GMT
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Post by triflo on Dec 24, 2018 20:43:24 GMT
Here we go again. Performance better than the movie itself. Again movie is dragging her down.
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Post by deron on Dec 24, 2018 21:12:46 GMT
Here we go again. Performance better than the movie itself. Again movie is dragging her down. I think you should watch the movie and judge for yourself. Movies that try different things often get judged more harshly than movies that play it safe. No one has tried to make this type of detective noir with a female protagonist. For all we know, the exact same movie with a man could be a treated with more reverence. Take a solace in the fact that major filmmakers like Chris Nolan and Edgar Wright are championing the film. And how many of Nicole's movies that got divisive (or even poor) reviews have ended up standing the test of time? Margot At The Wedding holds up, Birth is considered a masterpiece these days....I got high hopes for Destroyer, and the reviews are not terrible (like they were for Birth).
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Post by deron on Dec 24, 2018 21:14:55 GMT
I see on Twitter that the New York Times has made Destroyer Critics pick. Sounds like a positive review, but I don't have access to the New York Times. Could anyone that does transcribe the review here?
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Post by erik on Dec 24, 2018 21:15:04 GMT
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Post by lanthimossman on Dec 24, 2018 21:16:33 GMT
NY Times is an expanded Manohla rave, sorry I can't copy as not a subscriber.
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Post by erik on Dec 24, 2018 21:16:46 GMT
Full review:
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Post by deron on Dec 24, 2018 21:18:50 GMT
^^^^^
Thank you!
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Post by erik on Dec 24, 2018 21:23:32 GMT
A very important review from a hugely influential critic. Merry Christmas everyone!
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Dec 24, 2018 21:26:46 GMT
Yay we have the NY times review and also from Manohla Dargis. I had my fingers double crossed for this, please let this film be a hit.
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Post by lanthimossman on Dec 24, 2018 21:29:11 GMT
I love how Manohla is addressing the clear sexism taking place against Nicole for playing a grim and unglamorous character.
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Post by triflo on Dec 24, 2018 21:34:08 GMT
Here we go again. Performance better than the movie itself. Again movie is dragging her down. I think you should watch the movie and judge for yourself. Movies that try different things often get judged more harshly than movies that play it safe. No one has tried to make this type of detective noir with a female protagonist. For all we know, the exact same movie with a man could be a treated with more reverence. Take a solace in the fact that major filmmakers like Chris Nolan and Edgar Wright are championing the film. And how many of Nicole's movies that got divisive (or even poor) reviews have ended up standing the test of time? Margot At The Wedding holds up, Birth is considered a masterpiece these days....I got high hopes for Destroyer, and the reviews are not terrible (like they were for Birth). I will, for sure. Of course I will:) Come on:) I am not doubting in anything what You just wrote - in Kusama intentions, Nolan's or Wright's opinions, not doubting Nicole. I was commenting consensus which is repeated in many reviews: Performance better than movie itself. Also, it's really dissaponting because Kusama was the best choice for Best Director nominee. Female protagonist, ambitious project with genre-defying aspirations, good/redeeming reputation (similar to Nicole) in Metoo era. I guess the movie is not good enough and I thought that AW people were just ignoring it:)
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