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Post by HaurvatatL on Sept 18, 2020 14:44:54 GMT
I think the undoing is her best chance this year at another globe or Sag. GG nom is piece of cake, but SAG nom is a tough one. and I hope Donald Sutherland gets some big awards..
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Post by misstoker on Sept 18, 2020 16:10:13 GMT
She will loose for Regina King anyway, right?
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Post by Ventura on Sept 18, 2020 21:42:22 GMT
Hasn't Watchmen already been through this bit of the race? Globes and SAG, I mean.
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Post by HaurvatatL on Sept 18, 2020 22:24:54 GMT
yes, it's last year. Kidman'll battle with Cate the gate and lose it to her.
I need to take some pills to deal with this coming future like yesterday.
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Post by NicFan on Sept 18, 2020 22:27:09 GMT
She will loose for Regina King anyway, right? Regina King and Watchmen have already been eligible for last season's SAG's and Globes. After this weekend's Emmys, King won't be part of any upcoming major award shows for Watchmen. Her run is pretty much over. There is no outstanding frontrunner right now in the limited series Actress category once King is gone. It might default back to Cate Blanchett for Mrs America, since a lot of people are presuming she's the one behind King. But Blanchett may have no buzz left by the time the next Globes and SAG roll around, especially if she loses the Emmy to King as expected. Nicole in The Undoing being an Autumn debut helps her chances (if reviews are strong) as her buzz will be fresh. Michaela Cole for I May Destroy You seems like the kind of person who can get a huge amount of industry buzz, because she wrote and directed on her show (and it was on HBO). I can see Cole being a threat, even if the show has already come out.
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Post by NicFan on Sept 18, 2020 22:32:05 GMT
yes, it's last year. Kidman'll battle with Cate the gate and lose it to her. I need to take some pills to deal with this coming future like yesterday. HBO should have a big push for Michaela Cole for I May Destroy You. It's not one of those shows that lots of people saw, but it's the kind of thing that people in the industry get excited about rewarding. Cole looks like she could be another Phoebe Waller Bridge type whom the industry likes giving awards because she is basically the writer and showrunner, as well as lead actress.
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Post by NicFan on Sept 18, 2020 22:47:08 GMT
yes, it's last year. Kidman'll battle with Cate the gate and lose it to her. I need to take some pills to deal with this coming future like yesterday. Well, what really matters is Blanchett not winning the Emmy. That's what she really wants, as it's recognised as the most significant TV award in the world (like the Oscars is for film). I think it'll be pretty special for Nicole to still be able to say she is the only Australian actress with both an Oscar and an Emmy, especially when so many people thought all Blanchett had to do was turn up in a prestige mini-series and win an Emmy. The fact that King has taken frontrunner status shows it is no longer that easy for movie actors to just show up on TV and get an Emmy to complete their collection of major awards. Blanchett and her fans will be wondering what went wrong. So hopefully King gets the job done on Sunday. I can live with Nicole losing those other awards to Blanchett if she remains the only one with an Emmy.
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Post by Our Nic on Sept 19, 2020 0:05:40 GMT
Must we always pit the Australian actresses against each other?
And at least Cate Blanchett never had to babysit for Nicole’s kids 🤮
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Post by Ventura on Sept 19, 2020 0:59:06 GMT
NicFan is right about Blanchett's chances diminishing if King wins (which she'll likely do, because she's by far the best in the category, and Watchmen has HUGE buzz, deservingly so). I need to continue with I May Destroy You, I only saw the first one and the reviews are great, but the subject matter put me off, I agree she might be a threat because she's the kind of multi-talented (actress, writer, producer) star that shows up every once in a while, and they like to reward (also, a lot of people have really liked the show and the subject matter is important).
As for Blanchett herself, I agree people thought she only needed to show up in a prestige miniseries to win an easy Emmy, but I'm happier that King is gonna win simply because she was better, and Watchmen was a better show. Mrs. America was really good, too, but Blanchett did her old over-the-top routine, nothing much new. 10 years ago, something as bad as AHS could get a ton of noms, but now that everyone is doing TV, it's not enough to be a big cinema star and do a little TV detour (Amy Adams should've won ten Emmys for SO and we all know how that went). The situation does benefit Kidman, because as we saw with BLL2, if a show doesn't have passionate support behind (and Mrs. America only got a bunch of Emmy nods, when it could've gotten much more), it's easily forgotten for the new shiny thing. Now The Undoing needs to be good, but Bier has proven herself a talented director for miniseries: The Night Manager got an excellent 82 on MC and swept the acting categories at the Globes. Let's hope something similar happens here.
I'd say unless reviews are bad, a nomination is secure, especially at the Globes, who love her.
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Post by NicFan on Sept 19, 2020 1:49:07 GMT
As for Blanchett herself, I agree people thought she only needed to show up in a prestige miniseries to win an easy Emmy, but I'm happier that King is gonna win simply because she was better, and Watchmen was a better show. Mrs. America was really good, too, but Blanchett did her old over-the-top routine, nothing much new. 10 years ago, something as bad as AHS could get a ton of noms, but now that everyone is doing TV, it's not enough to be a big cinema star and do a little TV detour (Amy Adams should've won ten Emmys for SO and we all know how that went). Shows how hard earned and hard won Nicole's Emmy was. Nicole had to win that Emmy in the era of peak Television, where every movie actor detours into TV now, and the quality is so high and the competition is so fierce (Nicole had to beat Reese Witherspoon, Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange at the top of their games). A decade ago, the likes of Kate Winslet and Julianne Moore could show up in well recieved limited series, and almost be guaranteed the Emmy because they were big name movie actors and the competition was not that tough. Today, Julia Roberts can do some of her best ever work in something like Homecoming and not even get an Emmy nomination. 10 years ago, that would would have been extremely unlikely. Reese Witherspoon is a big movie star doing a lot of prestige TV, and she may never win an Emmy because the competition is now so tough. Amy Adams in Sharp Objects is another example that would would have won an Emmy easily back when Winslet and Moore won theirs. Blanchett may well win an Emmy one day (assuming she doesn't on Sunday), but she will need to keep putting the work in, and she won't just get it because she's Cate Blanchett.
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Post by Ventura on Sept 19, 2020 2:03:08 GMT
As for Blanchett herself, I agree people thought she only needed to show up in a prestige miniseries to win an easy Emmy, but I'm happier that King is gonna win simply because she was better, and Watchmen was a better show. Mrs. America was really good, too, but Blanchett did her old over-the-top routine, nothing much new. 10 years ago, something as bad as AHS could get a ton of noms, but now that everyone is doing TV, it's not enough to be a big cinema star and do a little TV detour (Amy Adams should've won ten Emmys for SO and we all know how that went). Shows how hard earned and hard won Nicole's Emmy was. Nicole had to win that Emmy in the era of peak Television, where every movie actor detours into TV now, and the quality is so high and the competition is so fierce (Nicole had to beat Reese Witherspoon, Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange at the top of their games). A decade ago, the likes of Kate Winslet and Julianne Moore could show up in well recieved limited series, and almost be guaranteed the Emmy because they were big name movie actors and the competition was not that tough. Today, Julia Roberts can do some of her best ever work in something like Homecoming and not even get an Emmy nomination. 10 years ago, that would would have been extremely unlikely. Reese Witherspoon is a big movie star doing a lot of prestige TV, and she may never win an Emmy because the competition is now so tough. Amy Adams in Sharp Objects is another example that would would have won an Emmy easily back when Winslet and Moore won theirs. Blanchett may well win an Emmy one day (assuming she doesn't on Sunday), but she will need to keep putting the work in, and she won't just get it because she's Cate Blanchett. I agree! And Julia Roberts was fantastic in Homecoming, I was sad that she went unrecognized. I also read Steinem's interview saying Mrs. America fabricated a lot of facts, so probably for the best Blanchett won't be winning for it. I thought if someone deserved awards for it was Byrne, but she didn't even get a nom. A lot has changed in barely 10 years, but 2017 was especially tough for Actress in a mini, I remember Lange stans saying it was hers to lose until the very end. That Nicole managed to produce not onty a water-cooler TV even, but also sweep the awards race with it was incredibly impressive (and something not many of her peers see themselves forced to do just to get an interesting role off the ground, so kudos to her).
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Post by HaurvatatL on Sept 19, 2020 9:45:11 GMT
thx, Nicfan and Ven! the Emmy is tougher than it used to be, this is a very important changing path and so true. if we look back, Kidman's year is just symbolic, when you got 4 Oscar leading winners in two big feminine show. even I didn't like Ryan's melodrama, Feud is still a big female theme which could sweep almost every year before it.
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Post by curdey on Sept 21, 2020 1:51:31 GMT
Wow, Schitt's Creek is cleaning up at the Emmys! I was so obsessed with that show, but by Season 5 I had fatigued of it, and I don't think I will ever watch the final season. I adored Alexis and Ted, but knowing what happens in S6 made me not want to watch any more. I'm happy to leave it where it finished in S5. But very happy for everyone involved in it - it deserves it's flowers Although, I am so loving What We Do In The Shadows still - it should have received more noms and wins! Natasia Demetriou is so friggin' great! It really is so uneventful/boring without Nicole, isn't it? :/ God I hope the Undoing is well-received enough to get her in to the awards races - I MISS seeing our girl!
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Post by NicFan on Sept 21, 2020 2:10:30 GMT
Well, Nicole remains the only Australian actress to have won both an Oscar and an Emmy. Well done to Regina King.
Hope The Undoing gets a strong reception so Nicole is at least competitive in the mini-series actress races for the Golden Globes and Sag.
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Post by Mr Dedlock on Sept 21, 2020 5:55:39 GMT
I called Regina Kings win way way back lol, Zendaya also taking the lead actress prize is surprising but not really.
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